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ScottW
2021-09-18 17:19:34 UTC
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Under the latest version of the proposal, an increased credit of $12,000 would apply to union-made vehicles that are assembled in the U.S. and an extra $500 would be added if the vehicle contains 50% domestic parts.

Tesla purchases would not be eligible for the new credit since the company's workforce is not unionized. Automakers such as Toyota and Honda are speaking out against the Democrats' proposal, given that their workforce is not unionized either.

It's a stupid gift to the rich....but for only "union-made" vehicles? WTF?

ScottW
MiNe109
2021-09-18 19:07:08 UTC
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On 9/18/21 12:19 PM, ScottW wrote:

Copying news stories without attribution? Making a strawman that
electric car subsidies should benefit the working class? Getting worked
up over a proposal that hasn't even made it out of committee? A proposal
that doesn't seem to apply to many cars actually in production?
ScottW
2021-09-19 04:24:35 UTC
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Copying news stories without attribution? Making a strawman that
electric car subsidies should benefit the working class? Getting worked
up over a proposal that hasn't even made it out of committee? A proposal
that doesn't seem to apply to many cars actually in production?
Can't answer the question I see....WTF?

ScottW
MiNe109
2021-09-19 14:31:13 UTC
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Copying news stories without attribution? Making a strawman that
electric car subsidies should benefit the working class? Getting worked
up over a proposal that hasn't even made it out of committee? A proposal
that doesn't seem to apply to many cars actually in production?
Can't answer the question I see....WTF?
Ford and GM think so.
MiNe109
2021-09-19 22:54:23 UTC
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Copying news stories without attribution? Making a strawman that
electric car subsidies should benefit the working class? Getting worked
up over a proposal that hasn't even made it out of committee? A proposal
that doesn't seem to apply to many cars actually in production?
Can't answer the question I see....WTF?
Ford and GM think so.
Wanna bet?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-plans-to-move-new-project-from-avon-lake-plant-to-mexico/ar-BB1eEhpR#
https://www.treehugger.com/battle-royal-over-electric-vehicle-subsidies-5201290

Quotes Elon Musk that the bill “written by Ford/UAW [United Auto
Workers] lobbyists."
ScottW
2021-09-20 05:03:59 UTC
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Copying news stories without attribution? Making a strawman that
electric car subsidies should benefit the working class? Getting worked
up over a proposal that hasn't even made it out of committee? A proposal
that doesn't seem to apply to many cars actually in production?
Can't answer the question I see....WTF?
Ford and GM think so.
Wanna bet?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-plans-to-move-new-project-from-avon-lake-plant-to-mexico/ar-BB1eEhpR#
https://www.treehugger.com/battle-royal-over-electric-vehicle-subsidies-5201290
Quotes Elon Musk that the bill “written by Ford/UAW [United Auto
Workers] lobbyists."
I'm sure the UAW have their DNC donation prints all over it.
Ford..... the greedy corporation who doesn't pay their fair share....not so much.

ScottW
MiNe109
2021-09-20 15:57:05 UTC
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On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:31:14 AM UTC-7, MINe109
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Post by MiNe109
Copying news stories without attribution? Making a strawman
that electric car subsidies should benefit the working
class? Getting worked up over a proposal that hasn't even
made it out of committee? A proposal that doesn't seem to
apply to many cars actually in production?
Can't answer the question I see....WTF?
Ford and GM think so.
Wanna bet?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-plans-to-move-new-project-from-avon-lake-plant-to-mexico/ar-BB1eEhpR#
https://www.treehugger.com/battle-royal-over-electric-vehicle-subsidies-5201290
Post by ScottW
Post by MiNe109
Quotes Elon Musk that the bill “written by Ford/UAW [United Auto
Workers] lobbyists."
I'm sure the UAW have their DNC donation prints all over it.
Ford..... the greedy corporation who doesn't pay their fair
share....not so much.
Ford will build the F-150 Lightning in Michigan and the E-Transit in
Kansas City. GM will build in Michigan and Tennessee.
ScottW
2021-09-20 16:45:49 UTC
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On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:31:14 AM UTC-7, MINe109
Post by MiNe109
Post by ScottW
Post by MiNe109
Copying news stories without attribution? Making a strawman
that electric car subsidies should benefit the working
class? Getting worked up over a proposal that hasn't even
made it out of committee? A proposal that doesn't seem to
apply to many cars actually in production?
Can't answer the question I see....WTF?
Ford and GM think so.
Wanna bet?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-plans-to-move-new-project-from-avon-lake-plant-to-mexico/ar-BB1eEhpR#
https://www.treehugger.com/battle-royal-over-electric-vehicle-subsidies-5201290
Post by ScottW
Post by MiNe109
Quotes Elon Musk that the bill “written by Ford/UAW [United Auto
Workers] lobbyists."
I'm sure the UAW have their DNC donation prints all over it.
Ford..... the greedy corporation who doesn't pay their fair
share....not so much.
Ford will build the F-150 Lightning in Michigan and the E-Transit in
Kansas City. GM will build in Michigan and Tennessee.
Sure they will.... until they don't.

ScottW

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