Discussion:
Julian Hirsch, RIP
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Arny Krueger
2003-12-03 08:01:40 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html

"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the first to
help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the good, the bad and
the indifferent in electronic sound equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx.
He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle, N.Y."
Robert Morein
2003-12-03 13:07:29 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the first to
help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the good, the bad and
the indifferent in electronic sound equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx.
He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle, N.Y."
I loved that guy.

I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn Station.
Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that station.

He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good will, and
tolerance.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-03 16:04:07 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the first
to
Post by Arny Krueger
help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the good, the bad and
the indifferent in electronic sound equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the
Bronx.
Post by Arny Krueger
He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle, N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn Station.
Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good will, and
tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of fond
remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated none of those
qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has already been written.
Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have had such signficantly different
responses in their efforts to communicate.



Bruce J. Richman
Arny Krueger
2003-12-03 16:14:39 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the
first to help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the
good, the bad and the indifferent in electronic sound equipment,
died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx. He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle,
N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn
Station. Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that
station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good
will, and tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of
fond remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated
none of those qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has
already been written. Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have had
such signficantly different responses in their efforts to communicate.
So tell us about your RAO legacy of "good will and tolerance", Richman. I
take it that this would be a good example of the same?
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-03 17:36:39 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the
first to help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the
good, the bad and the indifferent in electronic sound equipment,
died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx. He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle,
N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn
Station. Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that
station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good
will, and tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of
fond remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated
none of those qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has
already been written. Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have had
such signficantly different responses in their efforts to communicate.
So tell us about your RAO legacy of "good will and tolerance", Richman. I
take it that this would be a good example of the same?
Who is the "us" you are referring to, Krueger - aside from your friend,
McKelvy, you would appear to be quite isolated - and its not because of your
views, but rather because of the hostility and unprovoked personal attacks you
constantly use to convey them.

Unlike you, Krueger, I don't engage in personal attacks simply because somebody
doesn't agree with me. Of course, in dealing with people such as yourself,
that have engaged in unprovoked personal attacks against me, civil
communication is apparently impossible.
But with a few notable exception such as yourself and McKelvy, no such problem
exists.


Bruce J. Richman
Arny Krueger
2003-12-03 17:57:05 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among
the first to help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through
the good, the bad and the indifferent in electronic sound
equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx. He was 81 and lived in
New Rochelle, N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn
Station. Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that
station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good
will, and tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of
fond remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated
none of those qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has
already been written. Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have
had such significantly different responses in their efforts to
communicate.
So tell us about your RAO legacy of "good will and tolerance",
Richman. I take it that this would be a good example of the same?
Who is the "us" you are referring to, Krueger - aside from your
friend, McKelvy, you would appear to be quite isolated - and its not
because of your views, but rather because of the hostility and
unprovoked personal attacks you constantly use to convey them.
Irrelevant to the question I asked, Richman. To repeat that which you are
avoiding dealing with, are these gratuitous attacks examples of your "good
will and tolerance"?
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Unlike you, Krueger, I don't engage in personal attacks simply
because somebody doesn't agree with me.
Clearly Richman, no disagreement on my part is required. You just step right
up to my posts and start pissing away.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Of course, in dealing with
people such as yourself, that have engaged in unprovoked personal
attacks against me, civil communication is apparently impossible.
Then Richman why bother to communicate at all? I thought you valued "good
will and tolerance"!
Post by Bruce J. Richman
But with a few notable exception such as yourself and McKelvy, no
such problem exists.
You're not answering the questions I asked Richman. Why is that? Are they
too difficult? Are they over your head?
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-03 18:58:35 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among
the first to help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through
the good, the bad and the indifferent in electronic sound
equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx. He was 81 and lived in
New Rochelle, N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn
Station. Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that
station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good
will, and tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of
fond remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated
none of those qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has
already been written. Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have
had such significantly different responses in their efforts to
communicate.
So tell us about your RAO legacy of "good will and tolerance",
Richman. I take it that this would be a good example of the same?
Who is the "us" you are referring to, Krueger - aside from your
friend, McKelvy, you would appear to be quite isolated - and its not
because of your views, but rather because of the hostility and
unprovoked personal attacks you constantly use to convey them.
Irrelevant to the question I asked, Richman. To repeat that which you are
avoiding dealing with, are these gratuitous attacks examples of your "good
will and tolerance"?
Since they generally involve other people and not me, your question is
irrelevant. Your attempts to rationalize your 7 year history of unprovoked
personal attacks upon others by claimiing to be a victim are duly noted.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Unlike you, Krueger, I don't engage in personal attacks simply
because somebody doesn't agree with me.
Clearly Richman, no disagreement on my part is required. You just step right
up to my posts and start pissing away.
Prove that you have not engaged in unprovoked personal attacks against me,
Krueger. Prove that, as with most others, you have not maintained a vendetta
almost from the beginning of my posting on RAO. People attack you, Krueger,
because of your long history of prior attacks upon them. You never stop and
never make any attempts to redress past grievances. All you do, as is the case
here, is to try and falsely claim you are the victim and therefore "justified"
in attacking others.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Of course, in dealing with
people such as yourself, that have engaged in unprovoked personal
attacks against me, civil communication is apparently impossible.
Then Richman why bother to communicate at all? I thought you valued "good
will and tolerance"!
Why do you bother to attack others on a continuous basis? Why have you brought
up my name in threads of which I have not previously taken part? Don't bother
to answer, since you long history of holding grudges indefinitely is a matter
of Google record.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
But with a few notable exception such as yourself and McKelvy, no
such problem exists.
You're not answering the questions I asked Richman. Why is that? Are they
too difficult? Are they over your head?
You're simply asking questions to avoid admitting the truth, Krueger. Why do
you continue to lie about things of which you are totally ignorant? Prove that
anything you have said in this post is too difficult or over my head. You
can't. However, many have proven that you have repeatedly lied about many
things on RAO. And the Google record clearly reflects that fact of life.



Bruce J. Richman
Robert Morein
2003-12-03 20:10:14 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
You're not answering the questions I asked Richman. Why is that? Are they
too difficult? Are they over your head?
You're simply asking questions to avoid admitting the truth, Krueger. Why do
you continue to lie about things of which you are totally ignorant? Prove that
anything you have said in this post is too difficult or over my head. You
can't. However, many have proven that you have repeatedly lied about many
things on RAO. And the Google record clearly reflects that fact of life.
Bruce J. Richman
Arny just tried an interesting tactical diversion with me.

Arny Krueger crepitates
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Perhaps you never see music performed live. I attend and
participate in live performances of music at least once a week. I am very
familiar with listening to music in a context where audio reproduction is
irrelevant.
By the use of the word "perhaps", Arny dishonestly creates a shortfall, a
deficiency, in his debating opponent. Arny can "perhaps" his opponent into
oblivion, without taking the effort to note whether it is true. A dirty,
below-the-belt tactic.

I have a season subscription to the Philadelphia Orchestra.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-03 23:01:37 UTC
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Post by Robert Morein
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
You're not answering the questions I asked Richman. Why is that? Are they
too difficult? Are they over your head?
You're simply asking questions to avoid admitting the truth, Krueger. Why
do
Post by Bruce J. Richman
you continue to lie about things of which you are totally ignorant? Prove
that
Post by Bruce J. Richman
anything you have said in this post is too difficult or over my head. You
can't. However, many have proven that you have repeatedly lied about many
things on RAO. And the Google record clearly reflects that fact of life.
Bruce J. Richman
Arny just tried an interesting tactical diversion with me.
Arny Krueger crepitates
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Perhaps you never see music performed live. I attend and
participate in live performances of music at least once a week. I am very
familiar with listening to music in a context where audio reproduction is
irrelevant.
By the use of the word "perhaps", Arny dishonestly creates a shortfall, a
deficiency, in his debating opponent. Arny can "perhaps" his opponent into
oblivion, without taking the effort to note whether it is true. A dirty,
below-the-belt tactic.
I have a season subscription to the Philadelphia Orchestra.
Very nice. One of the best orchestras in the US. As a boy, my family had
connections to the Boston Symphony and knew Arthur Fiedler and other
luminaries, so I frequently attended BSO and Pops concerts. To this day, I
have a lot of Fiedler albums. But I also enjoyed Ormandy :).

Krueger can always be depended on to play semantic games with words, as you
point out. Your use of the term "crepitate" is a very good way of describing
his inflammatory remarks (sorry, I couldn't resist).

There is a famous classic comedy routine (available on LPs originally but also
on CD) called simpy "The Crepitation Contest". It is done straight like a
boxing match and is "broadcast" from Toronto's old Maple Leaf Gardens. The
"contest" takes place in a boxing ring between 2 contestants. Poor taste humor
to be sure, but hilariously funny and sometimes sold on eBay.




Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 01:21:56 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Arny Krueger
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
You're not answering the questions I asked Richman. Why is that? Are they
too difficult? Are they over your head?
You're simply asking questions to avoid admitting the truth, Krueger.
Why
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
do
Post by Bruce J. Richman
you continue to lie about things of which you are totally ignorant?
Prove
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
that
Post by Bruce J. Richman
anything you have said in this post is too difficult or over my head.
You
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Bruce J. Richman
can't. However, many have proven that you have repeatedly lied about many
things on RAO. And the Google record clearly reflects that fact of life.
Bruce J. Richman
Arny just tried an interesting tactical diversion with me.
Arny Krueger crepitates
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Perhaps you never see music performed live. I attend and
participate in live performances of music at least once a week. I am very
familiar with listening to music in a context where audio reproduction is
irrelevant.
By the use of the word "perhaps", Arny dishonestly creates a shortfall, a
deficiency, in his debating opponent. Arny can "perhaps" his opponent into
oblivion, without taking the effort to note whether it is true. A dirty,
below-the-belt tactic.
I have a season subscription to the Philadelphia Orchestra.
Very nice. One of the best orchestras in the US. As a boy, my family had
connections to the Boston Symphony and knew Arthur Fiedler and other
luminaries, so I frequently attended BSO and Pops concerts.
Right, I'm sure you know Napoleon as well, you fucking nutjob.

To this day, I
Post by Bruce J. Richman
have a lot of Fiedler albums. But I also enjoyed Ormandy :).
Krueger can always be depended on to play semantic games with words, as you
point out. Your use of the term "crepitate" is a very good way of describing
his inflammatory remarks (sorry, I couldn't resist).
There is a famous classic comedy routine (available on LPs originally but also
on CD) called simpy "The Crepitation Contest". It is done straight like a
boxing match and is "broadcast" from Toronto's old Maple Leaf Gardens.
The
Post by Bruce J. Richman
"contest" takes place in a boxing ring between 2 contestants. Poor taste humor
to be sure, but hilariously funny and sometimes sold on eBay.
Bruce J. Richman
Robert Morein
2003-12-04 03:40:58 UTC
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"Michael Mckelvy" <***@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:***@corp.supernews.com...
[snip]
Post by Michael Mckelvy
fucking nutjob.
and nothing else.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 06:58:41 UTC
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Post by Robert Morein
[snip]
Post by Michael Mckelvy
fucking nutjob.
and nothing else.
Agreed - his self-description of his mental status was, for a change, truthful.

Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in all his
glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and responded
with.........NOTHING!

I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new low - even
for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity and lack of
reality contact.

LOL!




Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 17:13:20 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
[snip]
Post by Michael Mckelvy
fucking nutjob.
and nothing else.
Agreed - his self-description of his mental status was, for a change, truthful.
Quackenbush, your reading skills are as bad as your professional ones.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in all his
glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and responded
with.........NOTHING!
You have a rich fantasy life. Actually, I hit send by accident when I was
intending to hit reply.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new low - even
for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity and lack of
reality contact.
LOL!
The stupidity is yours nutjob. This thread was about Julian Hirsch who was
respected in his field, unlike you.

YOU chose to make it an unprovoked attack on Arny.

Not only are you a personal and professional failure, you have extremely bad
manners as well.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
Arny Krueger
2003-12-04 17:43:25 UTC
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Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in
all his glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and
responded with.........NOTHING!
You have a rich fantasy life. Actually, I hit send by accident when
I was intending to hit reply.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new
low - even for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity
and lack of reality contact.
LOL!
The stupidity is yours nutjob. This thread was about Julian Hirsch
who was respected in his field, unlike you.
YOU chose to make it an unprovoked attack on Arny.
Not only are you a personal and professional failure, you have
extremely bad manners as well.
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how the
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people from
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to do.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 18:00:23 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in
all his glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and
responded with.........NOTHING!
You have a rich fantasy life. Actually, I hit send by accident when
I was intending to hit reply.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new
low - even for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity
and lack of reality contact.
LOL!
The stupidity is yours nutjob. This thread was about Julian Hirsch
who was respected in his field, unlike you.
YOU chose to make it an unprovoked attack on Arny.
Not only are you a personal and professional failure, you have
extremely bad manners as well.
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how the
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people from
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to do.
Krueger has a long, lengthy history of compulsive lying, personal attacks, and
totally unsupported false claims against me and many others. Therefore, his
nonsensical response and support ot the idiotic claims of his moronic,
delusional sidekick, McKelvy, is as idiotic as most of his paranoid ramblings,
conspiracy theories involving "cliques", "thugs" and the other imaginary
productions of Krueger's diseased mind.


Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 18:41:11 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in
all his glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and
responded with.........NOTHING!
You have a rich fantasy life. Actually, I hit send by accident when
I was intending to hit reply.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new
low - even for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity
and lack of reality contact.
LOL!
The stupidity is yours nutjob. This thread was about Julian Hirsch
who was respected in his field, unlike you.
YOU chose to make it an unprovoked attack on Arny.
Not only are you a personal and professional failure, you have
extremely bad manners as well.
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how the
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people from
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to do.
Krueger has a long, lengthy history of compulsive lying, personal attacks, and
totally unsupported false claims against me and many others.
But in THIS thread it was YOU who made the unprovoked attack.

Therefore, his
Post by Bruce J. Richman
nonsensical response and support ot the idiotic claims of his moronic,
delusional sidekick, McKelvy, is as idiotic as most of his paranoid ramblings,
The paranoid ramblings are yours, Quackenbush. You made an unprovoked attack
in a thread where the subject had nothing to do with you or with attacks on
anybody.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
conspiracy theories involving "cliques", "thugs" and the other imaginary
productions of Krueger's diseased mind.
Then start another thread to discuss those issues and let people pay there
respects to Julian Hirsch without your drivel.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 19:10:57 UTC
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Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in
all his glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and
responded with.........NOTHING!
You have a rich fantasy life. Actually, I hit send by accident when
I was intending to hit reply.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new
low - even for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity
and lack of reality contact.
LOL!
The stupidity is yours nutjob. This thread was about Julian Hirsch
who was respected in his field, unlike you.
YOU chose to make it an unprovoked attack on Arny.
Not only are you a personal and professional failure, you have
extremely bad manners as well.
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how
the
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people
from
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to do.
Krueger has a long, lengthy history of compulsive lying, personal attacks,
and
Post by Bruce J. Richman
totally unsupported false claims against me and many others.
But in THIS thread it was YOU who made the unprovoked attack.
Therefore, his
Post by Bruce J. Richman
nonsensical response and support ot the idiotic claims of his moronic,
delusional sidekick, McKelvy, is as idiotic as most of his paranoid
ramblings,
The paranoid ramblings are yours, Quackenbush. You made an unprovoked attack
in a thread where the subject had nothing to do with you or with attacks on
anybody.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
conspiracy theories involving "cliques", "thugs" and the other imaginary
productions of Krueger's diseased mind.
Then start another thread to discuss those issues and let people pay there
respects to Julian Hirsch without your drivel.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
The blatant pathological liar, duh-Mikey, in his never ending desire to spread
disinformation, has, as usual engaged in more lies, libel and misrepresentation
of reality. He is a long and lengthy Google-documented history of unprovoked
personal attacks against me. Of course, he is too stupid and cowardly to admit
this. He would rather just engage in false claims, libelous nonsense about my
professional activities and credentials, and further displays of his stupidity
and inability to tell the truth.



Bruce J. Richman
Robert Morein
2003-12-04 18:00:46 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how the
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people from
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to do.
Dr. Richman has the professional credentials to confirm the judgement of the
rest of the laymen on this group -- that your extreme intolerance,
oppressive nature, and urge to dominate this group overshadow your technical
knowledge.

Which is a shame, since as I have noted in the past, you have considerable
technical knowledge.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 18:17:36 UTC
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Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how
the
Post by Arny Krueger
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people
from
Post by Arny Krueger
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to do.
Dr. Richman has the professional credentials to confirm the judgement of the
rest of the laymen on this group -- that your extreme intolerance,
oppressive nature, and urge to dominate this group overshadow your technical
knowledge.
Whatever technical knowledge Krueger *may* have - which he occasionally likes
to brag about while belittling and smearing others - does not give him license
to engage in the inappropriate social behavior you so well describe. Part of
Krueger's response to any criticism, particularly from people qualified to
comment professionally about his online behavior, is to try and make false,
libelous claims about their professional credentials and activities. In this
effort, he has typically been supported by his sole supporter, McKelvy, a
frequent poster of blatantly libelous and false claims about my professional
activities.
Post by Robert Morein
Which is a shame, since as I have noted in the past, you have considerable
technical knowledge.
Bob, while I appreciate your comments, it is quite probable, as I've mentioned
previously, that a number of people posting here with engineering and/or
psychoacoustical backgrounds, such as yourself, John Atkinson, Glenn Zelniker,
and no doubt others as well, are ready and able to give technical advice when
requested without the desire or need to make it a part of yet another
agenda-driven set of personal attacks. Krueger does not have that capacity nor
any motivation to enage in socially appropriate behavior.



Bruce J. Richman
George M. Middius
2003-12-04 18:29:38 UTC
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... a number of people posting here with engineering and/or
psychoacoustical backgrounds, such as yourself, John Atkinson, Glenn Zelniker,
and no doubt others as well, are ready and able to give technical advice when
requested without the desire or need to make it a part of yet another
agenda-driven set of personal attacks. Krueger does not have that capacity nor
any motivation to enage in socially appropriate behavior.
Quite right. Krooger's behavior is the verbal equivalent of pooping at
any time, anywhere he might find himself. Krooger even recognizes that
this is his operational mode -- that's why he responds when we call
him "Mr. Shit". A documented example of Mr. Shit's self-loathing
occurred some years ago, when the Beast admitted that he enjoyed
riling people up so they'd be less inclined to argue with Phoebe
Johnston. God only knows what would happen if Krooger actually showed
up in public to "debate" Atkinson or somebody else. My guess: Krooger
would actually throw his feces at people, like a monkey in the zoo.
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 18:47:57 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how
the
Post by Arny Krueger
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people
from
Post by Arny Krueger
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to do.
Dr. Richman has the professional credentials to confirm the judgement of the
rest of the laymen on this group -- that your extreme intolerance,
oppressive nature, and urge to dominate this group overshadow your technical
knowledge.
Whatever technical knowledge Krueger *may* have - which he occasionally likes
to brag about while belittling and smearing others - does not give him license
to engage in the inappropriate social behavior you so well describe.
And what gives you the right to engage in those self same behaviors?

Part of
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Krueger's response to any criticism, particularly from people qualified to
comment professionally about his online behavior, is to try and make false,
libelous claims about their professional credentials and activities.
You have no credentials.

In this
Post by Bruce J. Richman
effort, he has typically been supported by his sole supporter, McKelvy, a
frequent poster of blatantly libelous and false claims about my professional
activities.
And you are a liar as well as a fraud.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Which is a shame, since as I have noted in the past, you have
considerable
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
technical knowledge.
Bob, while I appreciate your comments, it is quite probable, as I've mentioned
previously, that a number of people posting here with engineering and/or
psychoacoustical backgrounds, such as yourself, John Atkinson, Glenn Zelniker,
and no doubt others as well, are ready and able to give technical advice when
requested without the desire or need to make it a part of yet another
agenda-driven set of personal attacks. Krueger does not have that capacity nor
any motivation to enage in socially appropriate behavior.
Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 19:07:26 UTC
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Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about
how
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
the
Post by Arny Krueger
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people
from
Post by Arny Krueger
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to
do.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Dr. Richman has the professional credentials to confirm the judgement of
the
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
rest of the laymen on this group -- that your extreme intolerance,
oppressive nature, and urge to dominate this group overshadow your
technical
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
knowledge.
Whatever technical knowledge Krueger *may* have - which he occasionally
likes
Post by Bruce J. Richman
to brag about while belittling and smearing others - does not give him
license
Post by Bruce J. Richman
to engage in the inappropriate social behavior you so well describe.
And what gives you the right to engage in those self same behaviors?
I don;t engage in that type of behavior, youy pathetic liar and libeler.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
Part of
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Krueger's response to any criticism, particularly from people qualified to
comment professionally about his online behavior, is to try and make
false,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
libelous claims about their professional credentials and activities.
You have no credentials.
That's another lie, cretin. Still engaging in libel, I see. My credentials
have been described here previously and are a matter of public record. Your
lies are also a matter of public record.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
In this
Post by Bruce J. Richman
effort, he has typically been supported by his sole supporter, McKelvy, a
frequent poster of blatantly libelous and false claims about my
professional
Post by Bruce J. Richman
activities.
And you are a liar as well as a fraud.
You've just proven my point, imbecile. More lies and libel from Krueger's
supporter.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
Which is a shame, since as I have noted in the past, you have
considerable
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Robert Morein
technical knowledge.
Bob, while I appreciate your comments, it is quite probable, as I've
mentioned
Post by Bruce J. Richman
previously, that a number of people posting here with engineering and/or
psychoacoustical backgrounds, such as yourself, John Atkinson, Glenn
Zelniker,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
and no doubt others as well, are ready and able to give technical advice
when
Post by Bruce J. Richman
requested without the desire or need to make it a part of yet another
agenda-driven set of personal attacks. Krueger does not have that
capacity nor
Post by Bruce J. Richman
any motivation to enage in socially appropriate behavior.
Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 18:46:05 UTC
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Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how
the
Post by Arny Krueger
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people
from
Post by Arny Krueger
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to do.
Dr. Richman has the professional credentials to confirm the judgement of the
rest of the laymen on this group -- that your extreme intolerance,
oppressive nature, and urge to dominate this group overshadow your technical
knowledge.
Then let him say so in a thread on THAT topic!

This is not the place for it.

BTW have you seen Richman's credentials?
Have you seen Richman?
Post by Robert Morein
Which is a shame, since as I have noted in the past, you have considerable
technical knowledge.
Which puts him above you in the field of audio. You have had the extreme
bad taste and lack of intelligence to badmouth people like Dick Pierce on
the subject of what constitutes BAD SCIENCE. Rant and rave all you want,
just do it in an appropriate thread and stop proving that you are as big an
idiot as you think Arny is.

How big was that telescope?
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 19:17:00 UTC
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Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Robert Morein
Post by Arny Krueger
Right. Richman makes unprovoked attacks, ranting loud and long about how
the
Post by Arny Krueger
victim of his attack is a nutcase, in an vain effort to distract people
from
Post by Arny Krueger
the fact that making unprovoked attacks like his are a nutty thing to
do.
Post by Robert Morein
Dr. Richman has the professional credentials to confirm the judgement of
the
Post by Robert Morein
rest of the laymen on this group -- that your extreme intolerance,
oppressive nature, and urge to dominate this group overshadow your
technical
Post by Robert Morein
knowledge.
Then let him say so in a thread on THAT topic!
This is not the place for it.
BTW have you seen Richman's credentials?
Have you seen Richman?
Post by Robert Morein
Which is a shame, since as I have noted in the past, you have considerable
technical knowledge.
Which puts him above you in the field of audio. You have had the extreme
bad taste and lack of intelligence to badmouth people like Dick Pierce on
the subject of what constitutes BAD SCIENCE. Rant and rave all you want,
just do it in an appropriate thread and stop proving that you are as big an
idiot as you think Arny is.
How big was that telescope?
The documented libeler McKelvy has previously been challenged to print his
comments about my credentials and/or professional activities in an American
print publication. I will then instruct my attornies to sue him for libel. He
has declined because, as he has admitted in one of the tew truthful things he's
ever said here, he doesn't want to be sued. Why not? If he's telling the
truth, what does he have to worry about? Of course, this creep, libeler, and
patholgoical liar is trying to engage in character assassination and libel as
he usually does when confronted with the truth from those who have exposed his
sociopathic behavior on RAO.

Any and all professional activities and/or credentials I've previously
described on RAO are a matter of public record and quite easily verified. By
contrast, McKelvy's libelous nonsense, as he stupidly admitted here, is based
in part on an "email from an informed source" which he, of course,. refuses to
identify. He also, quite tellingly, neglected such basic steps as verification
of hearsay he claims to have obtained from an anonymous source. Who, in their
right mind, would possibly believe such nonsense? Of course, McKelvy is *not*
in his right mind, so I guess we know the answer to that one!

LOL!



Bruce J. Richman
Arny Krueger
2003-12-04 20:41:33 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Any and all professional activities and/or credentials I've previously
described on RAO are a matter of public record and quite easily
verified.
How about giving us a brief review?
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 23:14:11 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Any and all professional activities and/or credentials I've previously
described on RAO are a matter of public record and quite easily
verified.
How about giving us a brief review?
And if I did, what would you say? Prove it?
You can see my detailed response in a post directed at Ferstler some months
ago.



Bruce J. Richman
Arny Krueger
2003-12-05 00:00:11 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Any and all professional activities and/or credentials I've
previously described on RAO are a matter of public record and quite
easily verified.
How about giving us a brief review?
And if I did, what would you say?
I can't predict the future.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Prove it?
I can't predict the future.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
You can see my detailed response in a post directed at Ferstler some
months ago.
Sorry Bruce, but if this is how little you care about your credentials, why
would anybody respect them?
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-05 00:51:24 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Any and all professional activities and/or credentials I've
previously described on RAO are a matter of public record and quite
easily verified.
How about giving us a brief review?
And if I did, what would you say?
I can't predict the future.
Sure you can, since the only reason you asked the question was to practice what
has been referred to here as the "debating trade", i.e. to try and elicit a
response that you can then attack.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Prove it?
I can't predict the future.
Not true. You have a documented Google record of saying "Prove it" numerous
times to statements made by many people. Generally speaking, you do this
whenever you disagree with them or simply want to avoid admission of a mistake
or false claim you've previously made.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
You can see my detailed response in a post directed at Ferstler some
months ago.
Sorry Bruce, but if this is how little you care about your credentials, why
would anybody respect them?
Apparently, Kreuger, you're are now trying to engage in mind-reading my trying
to interpret my refusal to do your howework for you. How hypocritical since
you have in the past, when asked for Google references, to support some of your
claims, refused to provide them. I have no need to advertise my credentials
repeatedly on RAO. You, OTOH, apparently have a need to try and invent
interpretations that will support your personal attacks. Why should anybody
believe that you can read my mind or interpret my behavior in a valid way?




Bruce J. Richman
Arny Krueger
2003-12-05 11:11:13 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Any and all professional activities and/or credentials I've
previously described on RAO are a matter of public record and
quite easily verified.
How about giving us a brief review?
And if I did, what would you say?
I can't predict the future.
Sure you can, since the only reason you asked the question was to
practice what has been referred to here as the "debating trade", i.e.
to try and elicit a response that you can then attack.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Prove it?
I can't predict the future.
Not true.
Absolutely true. I can't predict the future. However people with mental
problems sometimes say they think they can.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
You have a documented Google record of saying "Prove it"
numerous times to statements made by many people.
This approach oftern works because people say many things for which they
have not one iota of proof. Richman, its not my fault that you happen to be
a leading example of people with that mental difficulty.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Generally
speaking, you do this whenever you disagree with them or simply want
to avoid admission of a mistake or false claim you've previously made.
Responding to a request for proof is easy if one has the appropriate facts
at their command. If you got the cards you can play and if you don't you
better fold. Around here we've got a problem with people like you Richman,
who don't have the relevant facts, but who also don't want to admit that
they were just posturing. If you've got the relevant facts on your side,
just lay them out.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
You can see my detailed response in a post directed at Ferstler some
months ago.
Sorry Bruce, but if this is how little you care about your
credentials, why would anybody respect them?
Apparently, Kreuger, you're are now trying to engage in mind-reading
my trying to interpret my refusal to do your howework for you.
It's not mind-reading Bruce, its observation of what is now a proven fact. I
make a polite request for you to just make some claims. I didn't even ask
for facts s to back them up. You've run away from the challenge, and
attacked me personally for my trouble.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
How
hypocritical since you have in the past, when asked for Google
references, to support some of your claims, refused to provide them.
So what? I've tirelessly documented my claims for years, only to have the
documentation dismissed or abused. I've no doubt documented more claims on
RAO than any other person ever has. I've therefore seen that documentation
dismissed more than anybody else has. Enough is enough!
Post by Bruce J. Richman
I have no need to advertise my credentials repeatedly on RAO.
Answering simple relevant questions isn't advertising, Richman.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
You,
OTOH, apparently have a need to try and invent interpretations that
will support your personal attacks. Why should anybody believe that
you can read my mind or interpret my behavior in a valid way?
I don't need to be a rocket scientist Richman, to correctly perceive that
you're running away from a challenge that would be simple to satisfy if you
were who you say you are. You say that you've already posted this
information once for Ferstler, and he hasn't posted here more than once or
twice in a long time. So, its been a long time since you answered questions
like these.

But Richman, you already gave us your answer, and now we're going to hold
you responsible for the proven fact that when simply and relevantly asked
for relevant information about yourself, you just ran away screaming like a
mad man!

LOL!
Robert Morein
2003-12-07 03:32:41 UTC
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[snip]
Post by Arny Krueger
I don't need to be a rocket scientist Richman, to correctly perceive that
you're running away from a challenge that would be simple to satisfy if you
were who you say you are. You say that you've already posted this
information once for Ferstler, and he hasn't posted here more than once or
twice in a long time. So, its been a long time since you answered questions
like these.
But Richman, you already gave us your answer, and now we're going to hold
you responsible for the proven fact that when simply and relevantly asked
for relevant information about yourself, you just ran away screaming like a
mad man!
LOL!
Arny,
You should trust Bruce in his evaluation of your psyche. He has ample
professional credentials and experience in working with people like you.
First, learn to trust. Then he can help you.
Arny Krueger
2003-12-07 03:46:05 UTC
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Post by Robert Morein
[snip]
Post by Arny Krueger
I don't need to be a rocket scientist Richman, to correctly perceive
that you're running away from a challenge that would be simple to
satisfy if you were who you say you are. You say that you've already
posted this information once for Ferstler, and he hasn't posted here
more than once or twice in a long time. So, its been a long time
since you answered questions like these.
But Richman, you already gave us your answer, and now we're going to
hold you responsible for the proven fact that when simply and
relevantly asked for relevant information about yourself, you just
ran away screaming like a mad man!
LOL!
Arny,
You should trust Bruce in his evaluation of your psyche. He has
ample professional credentials and experience in working with people
like you. First, learn to trust. Then he can help you.
Like you Morein, Richman gets his first ounce of credibility from me and
anybody with a brain when he cures himself.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-07 04:23:20 UTC
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Post by Robert Morein
[snip]
Post by Arny Krueger
I don't need to be a rocket scientist Richman, to correctly perceive that
you're running away from a challenge that would be simple to satisfy if
you
Post by Arny Krueger
were who you say you are. You say that you've already posted this
information once for Ferstler, and he hasn't posted here more than once or
twice in a long time. So, its been a long time since you answered
questions
Post by Arny Krueger
like these.
But Richman, you already gave us your answer, and now we're going to hold
you responsible for the proven fact that when simply and relevantly asked
for relevant information about yourself, you just ran away screaming like
a
Post by Arny Krueger
mad man!
LOL!
Arny,
You should trust Bruce in his evaluation of your psyche. He has ample
professional credentials and experience in working with people like you.
First, learn to trust. Then he can help you.
Apparently for people like Krueger and McKelvy, there is something terribly
threatening to them about having a licensed psychologist evaluate their online
behavior. That explains, in large measure, their attempts to slander both
psychologists that have posted on RAO (there may have been others, but of that
I would be unaware).

As you correctly point out, it is difficult for people like Krueger, who
exhibits many symptoms, at least online, of paranoid personality disorder, to
trust others. This has been exhbited in his conspiracy theories about John
Atkinson, audiophile publications, cliques on RAO, etc. And of course, no
similar claims have been made by other objectivists like Nousaine, Jim
Johnston, Glenn Zelniker, etc.), so we know that issues of
subjectivity/objectivity have nothing to do with it in reality.

It is worth noting that with very few exceptions, nobody other than Krueger and
McKelvy has every questioned anything I've ever had to say about my academic,
experiential, or professional background. But then again, it's hard to find
anybody else on this newsgroup as seriously disturbed as these two individuals.


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
Arny Krueger
2003-12-07 10:37:40 UTC
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Post by Bruce J. Richman
Apparently for people like Krueger and McKelvy, there is something
terribly threatening to them about having a licensed psychologist
evaluate their online behavior.
Delusions of grandeur noted.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
That explains, in large measure,
their attempts to slander both psychologists that have posted on RAO
(there may have been others, but of that I would be unaware).
It's not a matter of slander, its a matter of pointing out how completely
one-sided your behavior is here, Richman. You turn a blind eye to deviant
behavior by people that you agree with and lavish personal attacks on those
that you disagree with, cloaking them with pop psychology-type prose.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
As you correctly point out, it is difficult for people like Krueger,
who exhibits many symptoms, at least online, of paranoid personality
disorder, to trust others.
Wrong again, Richman. You're losing credibility points like there's no
tomorrow because you've obviously confused RAO with the real world.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
This has been exhbited in his conspiracy
theories about John Atkinson, audiophile publications, cliques on
RAO, etc.
In many cases the existence and activities of the conspiracies are
well-documented in the google archives. The existence of cliques on RAO is
obvious to anybody who dirties their eyes by observing this place for a
while. Indeed, Richman himself engages in this kind of behavior himself
when he turns a blind eye to the more deviant behavior around here.

Richman has a lengthy track record for ignoring the obviously serious mental
problems evidenced by posts like this one:

"JBorg" <***@eudoramail.com> wrote in message news:***@posting.google.com

"My claim is that Susan Kroobitch is not takin in enough
dough from her nightly rounds in the back alleys there
in Detroit. What a stupid cunt. Therefore here's a thing
to do: Have a gynecologist and proctologist detach, retouch
and reattach her vagina away from her asshole and stitch
them both back to their normal, original position. That
might do the trick. Then have the pastor from your local
church give that wrinkled gaping vagina his blessing by
asking her next Sunday to come forward during the mass
and order her to spread her pussy apart in front of the
congregation for everyones full view. If the pastor's cock
rise immediately after pulling his own pants down while
standing next to her, that means she has his blessing.
She is good to go, you incoherent, staggering cumstain.
That's the advice for Arnii Kroofuck the embittered
pederast."


Bruce Richman by his silence, would have us believe that the previous
paragraph was written by a perfectly happy individual that is normal in
every way. Indeed, the poor wretch that posts as "JBorg" is obviously as
normal and happy as Bruce Richman.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-07 16:23:05 UTC
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Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Apparently for people like Krueger and McKelvy, there is something
terribly threatening to them about having a licensed psychologist
evaluate their online behavior.
Delusions of grandeur noted.
Inability to comprehend and/or understand English clearly noted. There is
obviously nothing in the above observation concerning Krueger & McKelvy's
likely motives for attacking psychologists that is either delusional or
grandiose. Claims of any such properties by Kruegter simply provide more
evidence for therory being advaqnced here that evaluation of their online
behavior by licensed psychologists is tthreatening to them and therefore
triggers unprovoked personal attacks in retaliation.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
That explains, in large measure,
their attempts to slander both psychologists that have posted on RAO
(there may have been others, but of that I would be unaware).
It's not a matter of slander, its a matter of pointing out how completely
one-sided your behavior is here, Richman. You turn a blind eye to deviant
behavior by people that you agree with and lavish personal attacks on those
that you disagree with, cloaking them with pop psychology-type prose.
A totally false and flawed analysis, Krueger. First of all, there is no
pop-psychology prose being used, and your prior record of attacking the field
pf psychology and those that practice that profession are well known. Secondly,
you havge a documented record, as does McKelvy of slanderin myself, Scott
Wheeler (who is now suing you for libel), and numerous other individuals on RAO
by making deframatory comments about their real-life professional activities
despite no knowledge of same. You also have constantly endorsed and
embellisdhed the deviant behavior of Michael McKelvy, so your claims that I
ignore deviant behavior of others hypocritical and self-serving in extremis.
Everybody on RAO, of course, ignores numerous types of behavior that could be
called deviant. Of course, in your case, given your huge number of deviant
posts, many of chosen *not* to ignore it.
Post by Arny Krueger
As you correctly point out, it is difficult for people like Krueger,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
who exhibits many symptoms, at least online, of paranoid personality
disorder, to trust others.
Wrong again, Richman. You're losing credibility points like there's no
tomorrow because you've obviously confused RAO with the real world.
Prove it. Comments made about your paranoid conspiracy theories, constant
allusion to "cliques", sockpuppets, etc. refer to your online behavior only.
Unlike you, who is now being sued for libel by claiming that one of the RAO
posters is a pedophile in the real world, I have never offered a formal
diagnosis of your condition since I have never met you facer to face.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
This has been exhbited in his conspiracy
theories about John Atkinson, audiophile publications, cliques on
RAO, etc.
In many cases the existence and activities of the conspiracies are
well-documented in the google archives.
Prove that John Atkinson and/or any of the audiophile publications that you
have mentioned are involved in conspiracies. All that is documented in the
Google archives are your unsubstantiated accusations against Mr. Atkinson and
others.


The existence of cliques on RAO is
Post by Arny Krueger
obvious to anybody who dirties their eyes by observing this place for a
while. Indeed, Richman himself engages in this kind of behavior himself
when he turns a blind eye to the more deviant behavior around here.
When most people see the word, clique, they probably assume that it involves a
group of people that have met, perhaps associate with each other socially,
and/or share a number of common interests and values. In the case of RAO,
which appears to be your "real world" during most of your waking life, no such
cliques have ever been proven to exist. Speaking for myself, I have neither
met nor communicated personally witrh hardly anybody here. And since Krueger
labels almost all behavior that does endorse anti-preference,
anti-subjectivist, anti-tube, anti-vinyl ideas as "deviant', practically all
RAO posters, in his unrealistic and distorted view, are ignoring deviant
behavior.
Post by Arny Krueger
Richman has a lengthy track record for ignoring the obviously serious mental
"My claim is that Susan Kroobitch is not takin in enough
dough from her nightly rounds in the back alleys there
in Detroit. What a stupid cunt. Therefore here's a thing
to do: Have a gynecologist and proctologist detach, retouch
and reattach her vagina away from her asshole and stitch
them both back to their normal, original position. That
might do the trick. Then have the pastor from your local
church give that wrinkled gaping vagina his blessing by
asking her next Sunday to come forward during the mass
and order her to spread her pussy apart in front of the
congregation for everyones full view. If the pastor's cock
rise immediately after pulling his own pants down while
standing next to her, that means she has his blessing.
She is good to go, you incoherent, staggering cumstain.
That's the advice for Arnii Kroofuck the embittered
pederast."
In other words, krueger is now trying to advance the ridiculousd theory that is
my responsisiblity to serve as a monitor for the posts of others that attack
him. Given the large number of people that have attacked Krueger over the
years because of his unprovoked hostility, arrogance, and compulsive lying
about them, no person would be or should be able to read or comment upon every
anti-Kruegerr post on RAO. That, of course, would be a full time job, and for
most of us, that is not a raalistic option.
Post by Arny Krueger
Bruce Richman by his silence, would have us believe that the previous
paragraph was written by a perfectly happy individual that is normal in
every way.
Arny Krueger,, in making the above false claim and obvious lie, is now engaged
in mind-reading, a laughable behavior that he has tried to use to con people on
RAO many times in the past. Krueger has now advanced the totally irrational
and illogical argument that a person who does not comment on a post attacking
him, is by their silence, endorsing it. This, of course, is typical of the
type of paranoid thinking that consumes him.



Indeed, the poor wretch that posts as "JBorg" is obviously as
Post by Arny Krueger
normal and happy as Bruce Richman.
An obvious lie, since Krueger has no knowledge nor any evidence to support this
assumption and attempt at mind-reading that he has made.

When a person, such as Krueger, makes the claim that I (or anybody else for
that matter) ignores the posts of others who attack him because we approve of
them and/or "endorse" them, he is of course lying. Such claims, however, have
a very paranoid flavor in the opinion of most who rread them. They are just
another example of the type of conspiracy theory logic that permeates the
thinking and actions on RAO of indiviudlas like Arny Krueger.

Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
Michael McKelvy
2003-12-11 02:44:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Apparently for people like Krueger and McKelvy, there is something
terribly threatening to them about having a licensed psychologist
evaluate their online behavior.
Delusions of grandeur noted.
Inability to comprehend and/or understand English clearly noted. There is
obviously nothing in the above observation concerning Krueger & McKelvy's
likely motives for attacking psychologists that is either delusional or
grandiose.
I don't attack psychologists. I attack you for pretending to be one.

Claims of any such properties by Kruegter simply provide more
Post by Bruce J. Richman
evidence for therory being advaqnced here that evaluation of their online
behavior by licensed psychologists is tthreatening to them and therefore
triggers unprovoked personal attacks in retaliation.
How can it be retaliation and unprovoked?
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
That explains, in large measure,
their attempts to slander both psychologists that have posted on RAO
(there may have been others, but of that I would be unaware).
If you mean Gindi, he got in trouble for sockpuppetry.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
It's not a matter of slander, its a matter of pointing out how completely
one-sided your behavior is here, Richman. You turn a blind eye to deviant
behavior by people that you agree with and lavish personal attacks on those
that you disagree with, cloaking them with pop psychology-type prose.
A totally false and flawed analysis, Krueger.
A completely accurate analysis.

First of all, there is no
Post by Bruce J. Richman
pop-psychology prose being used, and your prior record of attacking the field
pf psychology and those that practice that profession are well known.
You would not agree that there a people practicing that profession that have
no business doing so? Are there areas of the profession that YOU think are
questionable?

Secondly,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
you havge a documented record, as does McKelvy of slanderin myself, Scott
Wheeler (who is now suing you for libel), and numerous other individuals on RAO
by making deframatory comments about their real-life professional activities
despite no knowledge of same. You also have constantly endorsed and
embellisdhed the deviant behavior of Michael McKelvy, so your claims that I
ignore deviant behavior of others hypocritical and self-serving in extremis.
You only acknowledge behavior as deviant when it is from people who take
you to task for your personal attacks.

snip
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
As you correctly point out, it is difficult for people like Krueger,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
who exhibits many symptoms, at least online, of paranoid personality
disorder, to trust others.
Whom do you think should be trusted that posts to RAO?
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Wrong again, Richman. You're losing credibility points like there's no
tomorrow because you've obviously confused RAO with the real world.
Prove it. Comments made about your paranoid conspiracy theories, constant
allusion to "cliques", sockpuppets, etc. refer to your online behavior only.
Unlike you, who is now being sued for libel by claiming that one of the RAO
posters is a pedophile in the real world, I have never offered a formal
diagnosis of your condition since I have never met you facer to face.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
This has been exhbited in his conspiracy
theories about John Atkinson, audiophile publications, cliques on
RAO, etc.
In many cases the existence and activities of the conspiracies are
well-documented in the google archives.
Prove that John Atkinson and/or any of the audiophile publications that you
have mentioned are involved in conspiracies. All that is documented in the
Google archives are your unsubstantiated accusations against Mr. Atkinson and
others.
The existence of cliques on RAO is
Post by Arny Krueger
obvious to anybody who dirties their eyes by observing this place for a
while. Indeed, Richman himself engages in this kind of behavior himself
when he turns a blind eye to the more deviant behavior around here.
When most people see the word, clique, they probably assume that it involves a
group of people that have met, perhaps associate with each other socially,
and/or share a number of common interests and values.
But his is RAO where most of the people have never met. There are quite
obviously people here who share the same likes and dislikes. It's not a
difficult concept to grasp.

In the case of RAO,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
which appears to be your "real world" during most of your waking life, no such
cliques have ever been proven to exist.
Then your standard of "proof" is out of touch with reality.

Speaking for myself, I have neither
Post by Bruce J. Richman
met nor communicated personally witrh hardly anybody here.
But there are some that you like better than others, correct? There are
some you really wish would just go away, right?

And since Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
labels almost all behavior that does endorse anti-preference,
Please provide one reference that show he is anti-preference. You can't
Post by Bruce J. Richman
anti-subjectivist,
Reference?

anti-tube,
To acknowldge that tubes are objectively different and have problems that
transistors don't have is more like common sense. SET's of course are just
distortion generators.

anti-vinyl ideas

Provide a reference.

as "deviant',

Another unsubstaniated claim.

practically all
Post by Bruce J. Richman
RAO posters, in his unrealistic and distorted view, are ignoring deviant
behavior.
Post by Arny Krueger
Richman has a lengthy track record for ignoring the obviously serious mental
"My claim is that Susan Kroobitch is not takin in enough
dough from her nightly rounds in the back alleys there
in Detroit. What a stupid cunt. Therefore here's a thing
to do: Have a gynecologist and proctologist detach, retouch
and reattach her vagina away from her asshole and stitch
them both back to their normal, original position. That
might do the trick. Then have the pastor from your local
church give that wrinkled gaping vagina his blessing by
asking her next Sunday to come forward during the mass
and order her to spread her pussy apart in front of the
congregation for everyones full view. If the pastor's cock
rise immediately after pulling his own pants down while
standing next to her, that means she has his blessing.
She is good to go, you incoherent, staggering cumstain.
That's the advice for Arnii Kroofuck the embittered
pederast."
In other words, krueger is now trying to advance the ridiculousd theory that is
my responsisiblity to serve as a monitor for the posts of others that attack
him.
Certainly as a mental health professional, it is not unreasonable to expect
you to comment on the sick nature of the above.

Given the large number of people that have attacked Krueger over the
Post by Bruce J. Richman
years because of his unprovoked hostility, arrogance, and compulsive lying
about them, no person would be or should be able to read or comment upon every
anti-Kruegerr post on RAO. That, of course, would be a full time job,
and for
Post by Bruce J. Richman
most of us, that is not a raalistic option.
I don't think anybody expects that, but a little objectivity would be nice.


ragraph was written by a perfectly happy individual that is normal in
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
every way.
Arny Krueger,, in making the above false claim and obvious lie, is now engaged
in mind-reading, a laughable behavior that he has tried to use to con people on
RAO many times in the past.
I'd call it absurity being used to point out the absurd.

Krueger has now advanced the totally irrational
Post by Bruce J. Richman
and illogical argument that a person who does not comment on a post attacking
him, is by their silence, endorsing it.
This wasn't an attack in any normal sense I can think of.

This, of course, is typical of the
Post by Bruce J. Richman
type of paranoid thinking that consumes him.
The above is why people with any sense can't take you seriously.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
An obvious lie, since Krueger has no knowledge nor any evidence to support this
assumption and attempt at mind-reading that he has made.
We have no evidense or knowledge that you are anythng more than a sockpuppet
cliaming to be a psycologist.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
When a person, such as Krueger, makes the claim that I (or anybody else for
that matter) ignores the posts of others who attack him because we approve of
them and/or "endorse" them, he is of course lying.
Why? Do you not acknowldge any sort of social responsability to proclaim
some of the obviously sick things that have been said about him as just
that, sick?

Such claims, however, have
Post by Bruce J. Richman
a very paranoid flavor in the opinion of most who rread them.
No, they have an obvious moral component that you seem to be unwilling to
address.

They are just
Post by Bruce J. Richman
another example of the type of conspiracy theory logic that permeates the
thinking and actions on RAO of indiviudlas like Arny Krueger.
Actually they are evidence of the fact that you do in fact turn a blind eye
to attacks on people you don't like.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-11 03:20:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael McKelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Apparently for people like Krueger and McKelvy, there is something
terribly threatening to them about having a licensed psychologist
evaluate their online behavior.
Delusions of grandeur noted.
Inability to comprehend and/or understand English clearly noted. There is
obviously nothing in the above observation concerning Krueger & McKelvy's
likely motives for attacking psychologists that is either delusional or
grandiose.
I don't attack psychologists. I attack you for pretending to be one.
Claims of any such properties by Kruegter simply provide more
Post by Bruce J. Richman
evidence for therory being advaqnced here that evaluation of their online
behavior by licensed psychologists is tthreatening to them and therefore
triggers unprovoked personal attacks in retaliation.
How can it be retaliation and unprovoked?
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
That explains, in large measure,
their attempts to slander both psychologists that have posted on RAO
(there may have been others, but of that I would be unaware).
If you mean Gindi, he got in trouble for sockpuppetry.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
It's not a matter of slander, its a matter of pointing out how completely
one-sided your behavior is here, Richman. You turn a blind eye to deviant
behavior by people that you agree with and lavish personal attacks on
those
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
that you disagree with, cloaking them with pop psychology-type prose.
A totally false and flawed analysis, Krueger.
A completely accurate analysis.
First of all, there is no
Post by Bruce J. Richman
pop-psychology prose being used, and your prior record of attacking the
field
Post by Bruce J. Richman
pf psychology and those that practice that profession are well known.
You would not agree that there a people practicing that profession that have
no business doing so? Are there areas of the profession that YOU think are
questionable?
Secondly,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
you havge a documented record, as does McKelvy of slanderin myself, Scott
Wheeler (who is now suing you for libel), and numerous other individuals
on RAO
Post by Bruce J. Richman
by making deframatory comments about their real-life professional
activities
Post by Bruce J. Richman
despite no knowledge of same. You also have constantly endorsed and
embellisdhed the deviant behavior of Michael McKelvy, so your claims that
I
Post by Bruce J. Richman
ignore deviant behavior of others hypocritical and self-serving in
extremis.
You only acknowledge behavior as deviant when it is from people who take
you to task for your personal attacks.
snip
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
As you correctly point out, it is difficult for people like Krueger,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
who exhibits many symptoms, at least online, of paranoid personality
disorder, to trust others.
Whom do you think should be trusted that posts to RAO?
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Wrong again, Richman. You're losing credibility points like there's no
tomorrow because you've obviously confused RAO with the real world.
Prove it. Comments made about your paranoid conspiracy theories, constant
allusion to "cliques", sockpuppets, etc. refer to your online behavior
only.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Unlike you, who is now being sued for libel by claiming that one of the
RAO
Post by Bruce J. Richman
posters is a pedophile in the real world, I have never offered a formal
diagnosis of your condition since I have never met you facer to face.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
This has been exhbited in his conspiracy
theories about John Atkinson, audiophile publications, cliques on
RAO, etc.
In many cases the existence and activities of the conspiracies are
well-documented in the google archives.
Prove that John Atkinson and/or any of the audiophile publications that
you
Post by Bruce J. Richman
have mentioned are involved in conspiracies. All that is documented in
the
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Google archives are your unsubstantiated accusations against Mr. Atkinson
and
Post by Bruce J. Richman
others.
The existence of cliques on RAO is
Post by Arny Krueger
obvious to anybody who dirties their eyes by observing this place for a
while. Indeed, Richman himself engages in this kind of behavior himself
when he turns a blind eye to the more deviant behavior around here.
When most people see the word, clique, they probably assume that it
involves a
Post by Bruce J. Richman
group of people that have met, perhaps associate with each other socially,
and/or share a number of common interests and values.
But his is RAO where most of the people have never met. There are quite
obviously people here who share the same likes and dislikes. It's not a
difficult concept to grasp.
In the case of RAO,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
which appears to be your "real world" during most of your waking life, no
such
Post by Bruce J. Richman
cliques have ever been proven to exist.
Then your standard of "proof" is out of touch with reality.
Speaking for myself, I have neither
Post by Bruce J. Richman
met nor communicated personally witrh hardly anybody here.
But there are some that you like better than others, correct? There are
some you really wish would just go away, right?
And since Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
labels almost all behavior that does endorse anti-preference,
Please provide one reference that show he is anti-preference. You can't
Post by Bruce J. Richman
anti-subjectivist,
Reference?
anti-tube,
To acknowldge that tubes are objectively different and have problems that
transistors don't have is more like common sense. SET's of course are just
distortion generators.
anti-vinyl ideas
Provide a reference.
as "deviant',
Another unsubstaniated claim.
practically all
Post by Bruce J. Richman
RAO posters, in his unrealistic and distorted view, are ignoring deviant
behavior.
Post by Arny Krueger
Richman has a lengthy track record for ignoring the obviously serious
mental
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
"My claim is that Susan Kroobitch is not takin in enough
dough from her nightly rounds in the back alleys there
in Detroit. What a stupid cunt. Therefore here's a thing
to do: Have a gynecologist and proctologist detach, retouch
and reattach her vagina away from her asshole and stitch
them both back to their normal, original position. That
might do the trick. Then have the pastor from your local
church give that wrinkled gaping vagina his blessing by
asking her next Sunday to come forward during the mass
and order her to spread her pussy apart in front of the
congregation for everyones full view. If the pastor's cock
rise immediately after pulling his own pants down while
standing next to her, that means she has his blessing.
She is good to go, you incoherent, staggering cumstain.
That's the advice for Arnii Kroofuck the embittered
pederast."
In other words, krueger is now trying to advance the ridiculousd theory
that is
Post by Bruce J. Richman
my responsisiblity to serve as a monitor for the posts of others that
attack
Post by Bruce J. Richman
him.
Certainly as a mental health professional, it is not unreasonable to expect
you to comment on the sick nature of the above.
Given the large number of people that have attacked Krueger over the
Post by Bruce J. Richman
years because of his unprovoked hostility, arrogance, and compulsive lying
about them, no person would be or should be able to read or comment upon
every
Post by Bruce J. Richman
anti-Kruegerr post on RAO. That, of course, would be a full time job,
and for
Post by Bruce J. Richman
most of us, that is not a raalistic option.
I don't think anybody expects that, but a little objectivity would be nice.
ragraph was written by a perfectly happy individual that is normal in
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
every way.
Arny Krueger,, in making the above false claim and obvious lie, is now
engaged
Post by Bruce J. Richman
in mind-reading, a laughable behavior that he has tried to use to con
people on
Post by Bruce J. Richman
RAO many times in the past.
I'd call it absurity being used to point out the absurd.
Krueger has now advanced the totally irrational
Post by Bruce J. Richman
and illogical argument that a person who does not comment on a post
attacking
Post by Bruce J. Richman
him, is by their silence, endorsing it.
This wasn't an attack in any normal sense I can think of.
This, of course, is typical of the
Post by Bruce J. Richman
type of paranoid thinking that consumes him.
The above is why people with any sense can't take you seriously.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
An obvious lie, since Krueger has no knowledge nor any evidence to support
this
Post by Bruce J. Richman
assumption and attempt at mind-reading that he has made.
We have no evidense or knowledge that you are anythng more than a sockpuppet
cliaming to be a psycologist.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
When a person, such as Krueger, makes the claim that I (or anybody else
for
Post by Bruce J. Richman
that matter) ignores the posts of others who attack him because we approve
of
Post by Bruce J. Richman
them and/or "endorse" them, he is of course lying.
Why? Do you not acknowldge any sort of social responsability to proclaim
some of the obviously sick things that have been said about him as just
that, sick?
Such claims, however, have
Post by Bruce J. Richman
a very paranoid flavor in the opinion of most who rread them.
No, they have an obvious moral component that you seem to be unwilling to
address.
They are just
Post by Bruce J. Richman
another example of the type of conspiracy theory logic that permeates the
thinking and actions on RAO of indiviudlas like Arny Krueger.
Actually they are evidence of the fact that you do in fact turn a blind eye
to attacks on people you don't like.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
have not read what the compulsive liar, McKelvy has written above. There is
no need to in order to respond. As pointed out previously, with each daily
addition of more idiotic and psychotic rantings and ravings - essentially as
meaningless as the ones he's posted on the previous day - he simply continues
to provide additional evidence of his desperation, his psychotic thought
processes, and of course, his hatred.

No doubt, he will keep responding with further psychotic blather to this post
as well. This assinine, seriously disturbed cretin corresponds quite closely
to a rat in a Skinner box, who robotically presses a bar to get some food. In
this case, the "bar" (metaphorically speaking) would be the voices in his head
telling him to invent more absurdities whenever he sees my name. The "food"
metaphorically speaking would, of course, be the delusional beliefs that others
are getting his "message".

State tuned for another chapter in the never-ending saga of McKelvy's
"Psychotic Fabrications - My Mission on RAO"



Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist










Bruce J. Richman
Michael McKelvy
2003-12-11 04:11:35 UTC
Permalink
Stick a fork in you you're done. You quote the entire post and then claim
you didn't read it.

None so blind..................
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Michael McKelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Apparently for people like Krueger and McKelvy, there is something
terribly threatening to them about having a licensed psychologist
evaluate their online behavior.
Delusions of grandeur noted.
Inability to comprehend and/or understand English clearly noted. There is
obviously nothing in the above observation concerning Krueger & McKelvy's
likely motives for attacking psychologists that is either delusional or
grandiose.
I don't attack psychologists. I attack you for pretending to be one.
Claims of any such properties by Kruegter simply provide more
Post by Bruce J. Richman
evidence for therory being advaqnced here that evaluation of their online
behavior by licensed psychologists is tthreatening to them and therefore
triggers unprovoked personal attacks in retaliation.
How can it be retaliation and unprovoked?
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
That explains, in large measure,
their attempts to slander both psychologists that have posted on RAO
(there may have been others, but of that I would be unaware).
If you mean Gindi, he got in trouble for sockpuppetry.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
It's not a matter of slander, its a matter of pointing out how completely
one-sided your behavior is here, Richman. You turn a blind eye to deviant
behavior by people that you agree with and lavish personal attacks on
those
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
that you disagree with, cloaking them with pop psychology-type prose.
A totally false and flawed analysis, Krueger.
A completely accurate analysis.
First of all, there is no
Post by Bruce J. Richman
pop-psychology prose being used, and your prior record of attacking the
field
Post by Bruce J. Richman
pf psychology and those that practice that profession are well known.
You would not agree that there a people practicing that profession that have
no business doing so? Are there areas of the profession that YOU think are
questionable?
Secondly,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
you havge a documented record, as does McKelvy of slanderin myself, Scott
Wheeler (who is now suing you for libel), and numerous other individuals
on RAO
Post by Bruce J. Richman
by making deframatory comments about their real-life professional
activities
Post by Bruce J. Richman
despite no knowledge of same. You also have constantly endorsed and
embellisdhed the deviant behavior of Michael McKelvy, so your claims that
I
Post by Bruce J. Richman
ignore deviant behavior of others hypocritical and self-serving in
extremis.
You only acknowledge behavior as deviant when it is from people who take
you to task for your personal attacks.
snip
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
As you correctly point out, it is difficult for people like Krueger,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
who exhibits many symptoms, at least online, of paranoid personality
disorder, to trust others.
Whom do you think should be trusted that posts to RAO?
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Wrong again, Richman. You're losing credibility points like there's no
tomorrow because you've obviously confused RAO with the real world.
Prove it. Comments made about your paranoid conspiracy theories, constant
allusion to "cliques", sockpuppets, etc. refer to your online behavior
only.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Unlike you, who is now being sued for libel by claiming that one of the
RAO
Post by Bruce J. Richman
posters is a pedophile in the real world, I have never offered a formal
diagnosis of your condition since I have never met you facer to face.
Post by Arny Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
This has been exhbited in his conspiracy
theories about John Atkinson, audiophile publications, cliques on
RAO, etc.
In many cases the existence and activities of the conspiracies are
well-documented in the google archives.
Prove that John Atkinson and/or any of the audiophile publications that
you
Post by Bruce J. Richman
have mentioned are involved in conspiracies. All that is documented in
the
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Google archives are your unsubstantiated accusations against Mr. Atkinson
and
Post by Bruce J. Richman
others.
The existence of cliques on RAO is
Post by Arny Krueger
obvious to anybody who dirties their eyes by observing this place for a
while. Indeed, Richman himself engages in this kind of behavior himself
when he turns a blind eye to the more deviant behavior around here.
When most people see the word, clique, they probably assume that it
involves a
Post by Bruce J. Richman
group of people that have met, perhaps associate with each other socially,
and/or share a number of common interests and values.
But his is RAO where most of the people have never met. There are quite
obviously people here who share the same likes and dislikes. It's not a
difficult concept to grasp.
In the case of RAO,
Post by Bruce J. Richman
which appears to be your "real world" during most of your waking life, no
such
Post by Bruce J. Richman
cliques have ever been proven to exist.
Then your standard of "proof" is out of touch with reality.
Speaking for myself, I have neither
Post by Bruce J. Richman
met nor communicated personally witrh hardly anybody here.
But there are some that you like better than others, correct? There are
some you really wish would just go away, right?
And since Krueger
Post by Bruce J. Richman
labels almost all behavior that does endorse anti-preference,
Please provide one reference that show he is anti-preference. You can't
Post by Bruce J. Richman
anti-subjectivist,
Reference?
anti-tube,
To acknowldge that tubes are objectively different and have problems that
transistors don't have is more like common sense. SET's of course are just
distortion generators.
anti-vinyl ideas
Provide a reference.
as "deviant',
Another unsubstaniated claim.
practically all
Post by Bruce J. Richman
RAO posters, in his unrealistic and distorted view, are ignoring deviant
behavior.
Post by Arny Krueger
Richman has a lengthy track record for ignoring the obviously serious
mental
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
"My claim is that Susan Kroobitch is not takin in enough
dough from her nightly rounds in the back alleys there
in Detroit. What a stupid cunt. Therefore here's a thing
to do: Have a gynecologist and proctologist detach, retouch
and reattach her vagina away from her asshole and stitch
them both back to their normal, original position. That
might do the trick. Then have the pastor from your local
church give that wrinkled gaping vagina his blessing by
asking her next Sunday to come forward during the mass
and order her to spread her pussy apart in front of the
congregation for everyones full view. If the pastor's cock
rise immediately after pulling his own pants down while
standing next to her, that means she has his blessing.
She is good to go, you incoherent, staggering cumstain.
That's the advice for Arnii Kroofuck the embittered
pederast."
In other words, krueger is now trying to advance the ridiculousd theory
that is
Post by Bruce J. Richman
my responsisiblity to serve as a monitor for the posts of others that
attack
Post by Bruce J. Richman
him.
Certainly as a mental health professional, it is not unreasonable to expect
you to comment on the sick nature of the above.
Given the large number of people that have attacked Krueger over the
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years because of his unprovoked hostility, arrogance, and compulsive lying
about them, no person would be or should be able to read or comment upon
every
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anti-Kruegerr post on RAO. That, of course, would be a full time job,
and for
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most of us, that is not a raalistic option.
I don't think anybody expects that, but a little objectivity would be nice.
ragraph was written by a perfectly happy individual that is normal in
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every way.
Arny Krueger,, in making the above false claim and obvious lie, is now
engaged
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in mind-reading, a laughable behavior that he has tried to use to con
people on
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RAO many times in the past.
I'd call it absurity being used to point out the absurd.
Krueger has now advanced the totally irrational
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and illogical argument that a person who does not comment on a post
attacking
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him, is by their silence, endorsing it.
This wasn't an attack in any normal sense I can think of.
This, of course, is typical of the
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type of paranoid thinking that consumes him.
The above is why people with any sense can't take you seriously.
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An obvious lie, since Krueger has no knowledge nor any evidence to support
this
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assumption and attempt at mind-reading that he has made.
We have no evidense or knowledge that you are anythng more than a sockpuppet
cliaming to be a psycologist.
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When a person, such as Krueger, makes the claim that I (or anybody else
for
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that matter) ignores the posts of others who attack him because we approve
of
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them and/or "endorse" them, he is of course lying.
Why? Do you not acknowldge any sort of social responsability to proclaim
some of the obviously sick things that have been said about him as just
that, sick?
Such claims, however, have
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a very paranoid flavor in the opinion of most who rread them.
No, they have an obvious moral component that you seem to be unwilling to
address.
They are just
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another example of the type of conspiracy theory logic that permeates the
thinking and actions on RAO of indiviudlas like Arny Krueger.
Actually they are evidence of the fact that you do in fact turn a blind eye
to attacks on people you don't like.
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Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
have not read what the compulsive liar, McKelvy has written above. There is
no need to in order to respond. As pointed out previously, with each daily
addition of more idiotic and psychotic rantings and ravings - essentially as
meaningless as the ones he's posted on the previous day - he simply continues
to provide additional evidence of his desperation, his psychotic thought
processes, and of course, his hatred.
No doubt, he will keep responding with further psychotic blather to this post
as well. This assinine, seriously disturbed cretin corresponds quite closely
to a rat in a Skinner box, who robotically presses a bar to get some food.
In
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this case, the "bar" (metaphorically speaking) would be the voices in his head
telling him to invent more absurdities whenever he sees my name. The "food"
metaphorically speaking would, of course, be the delusional beliefs that others
are getting his "message".
State tuned for another chapter in the never-ending saga of McKelvy's
"Psychotic Fabrications - My Mission on RAO"
Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-11 07:45:13 UTC
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Stick a fork in you you're done. You quote the entire post and then claim
you didn't read it.
None so blind..................
You've lost, cretin. One does not have to read your psychotic ramblings to
know what they say. Have you heard of pressing a quote key, you pathetic fool?

You really are an idiot. I just decided to treat your repetitive lies with the
total lack of resperct they deserve.

SCORE !!!!


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
Michael McKelvy
2003-12-11 07:40:54 UTC
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Post by Robert Morein
[snip]
Post by Arny Krueger
I don't need to be a rocket scientist Richman, to correctly perceive that
you're running away from a challenge that would be simple to satisfy if
you
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were who you say you are. You say that you've already posted this
information once for Ferstler, and he hasn't posted here more than once or
twice in a long time. So, its been a long time since you answered
questions
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like these.
But Richman, you already gave us your answer, and now we're going to hold
you responsible for the proven fact that when simply and relevantly asked
for relevant information about yourself, you just ran away screaming
like
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a
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mad man!
LOL!
Arny,
You should trust Bruce in his evaluation of your psyche. He has ample
professional credentials and experience in working with people like you.
First, learn to trust. Then he can help you.
This is why I think the alleged Mr. Morein is not who he says he is.

"Bruce" is an obvious fraud. He's a much a real shrink as Dr. Laura.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-11 07:59:16 UTC
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[snip]
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I don't need to be a rocket scientist Richman, to correctly perceive
that
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you're running away from a challenge that would be simple to satisfy if
you
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were who you say you are. You say that you've already posted this
information once for Ferstler, and he hasn't posted here more than once
or
Post by Robert Morein
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twice in a long time. So, its been a long time since you answered
questions
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like these.
But Richman, you already gave us your answer, and now we're going to
hold
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you responsible for the proven fact that when simply and relevantly
asked
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for relevant information about yourself, you just ran away screaming
like
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a
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mad man!
LOL!
Arny,
You should trust Bruce in his evaluation of your psyche. He has ample
professional credentials and experience in working with people like you.
First, learn to trust. Then he can help you.
This is why I think the alleged Mr. Morein is not who he says he is.
"Bruce" is an obvious fraud. He's a much a real shrink as Dr. Laura.
Above are printed the desperate libelous rantings of a psychotic fool named
McKelvy. His credibility is zero, and that is why he recreates the same lies
over and over again, in the desperate hope that somebody other than Krueger
will believe him. Unfortunately, his smear campaigns have failed to produce
the results he so desperately seeks.


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist

Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 17:57:07 UTC
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duh-Mikey wrote:
]
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[snip]
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fucking nutjob.
and nothing else.
Agreed - his self-description of his mental status was, for a change,
truthful.
Quackenbush, your reading skills are as bad as your professional ones.
Coming from an obvious idiot like yourself, duh-Mikey, that false claim is
laughable. Your stupidity and total lack of ability to tell the truth has been
demonstrated repeatedly on RAO.
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Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in all his
glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and responded
with.........NOTHING!
You have a rich fantasy life. Actually, I hit send by accident when I was
intending to hit reply.
Another lie, you idiotic weasel. Your rage and disconnect frrom reality no
doubt interfered, as it usually does, with your ability to act in an
appropriate manner.
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I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new low -
even
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for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity and
lack of
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reality contact.
LOL!
The stupidity is yours nutjob. This thread was about Julian Hirsch who was
respected in his field, unlike you.
You're full of shit, you moronic imbecile. Your delusional rantings and
ravings are now becoing more obvious. And of course , your lies about my
professional activities are just further proof of the desperate lengths to
which you will go to commit libel. You actually know nothing about my
professional activities whatsoever. So all youi delusional claims about my
professional activities just make you look like a bigger fool.
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YOU chose to make it an unprovoked attack on Arny.
Not only are you a personal and professional failure, you have extremely bad
manners as well.
You're lying again, cretin. You have a documented history of unprovoked
personal attacks against me personaly as well as my profession - about which
you know absolutely nothing. Your documented RAO history as a compulsive liar
and spreader of libel is further confimed here. Your creditiblity is zero.
Your lies are a matter of Google record.
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Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 18:56:40 UTC
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]
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[snip]
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fucking nutjob.
and nothing else.
Agreed - his self-description of his mental status was, for a change,
truthful.
Quackenbush, your reading skills are as bad as your professional ones.
Coming from an obvious idiot like yourself, duh-Mikey, that false claim is
laughable. Your stupidity and total lack of ability to tell the truth has been
demonstrated repeatedly on RAO.
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Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in all his
glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and responded
with.........NOTHING!
You have a rich fantasy life. Actually, I hit send by accident when I was
intending to hit reply.
Another lie, you idiotic weasel. Your rage and disconnect frrom reality no
doubt interfered, as it usually does, with your ability to act in an
appropriate manner.
As I said, you don't know what you're talking about and you suck as a mind
reader.
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I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new low -
even
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for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity and
lack of
Post by Bruce J. Richman
reality contact.
LOL!
The stupidity is yours nutjob. This thread was about Julian Hirsch who was
respected in his field, unlike you.
You're full of shit, you moronic imbecile.
An opinion you get to have.

Your delusional rantings and
Post by Bruce J. Richman
ravings are now becoing more obvious.
As are yours.

And of course , your lies about my
Post by Bruce J. Richman
professional activities are just further proof of the desperate lengths to
which you will go to commit libel.
I haven't lied about your professional activities, I don't know for sure
what they are. I do know that someone whom I can't name out of courtesy,
told me in a private E-mail about them. The only thing I'm sure of, is that
you are an asshole.
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YOU chose to make it an unprovoked attack on Arny.
Not only are you a personal and professional failure, you have extremely bad
manners as well.
You're lying again, cretin.
Telling the truth about you makes me a cretin and a liar?
Now who has a disconnect.

You have a documented history of unprovoked
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personal attacks against me personaly as well as my profession - about which
you know absolutely nothing.
Actually that's a distortion. Usually, I respond to other unprovoked
personal attacks. I have never attacked anybody who hasn't attacked me
first.

Your documented RAO history as a compulsive liar
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and spreader of libel is further confimed here. Your creditiblity is zero.
Your lies are a matter of Google record.
And yet you never provide one single link or quote from that "record" to
prove your case. Of course that must mean that you are either not savvy
enough to find them or they don't exist.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 23:29:08 UTC
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]
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[snip]
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fucking nutjob.
and nothing else.
Agreed - his self-description of his mental status was, for a change,
truthful.
Quackenbush, your reading skills are as bad as your professional ones.
Coming from an obvious idiot like yourself, duh-Mikey, that false claim is
laughable. Your stupidity and total lack of ability to tell the truth has
been
Post by Bruce J. Richman
demonstrated repeatedly on RAO.
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Btw, the imbecile McKelvy was so angry at seeing my name, that in all
his
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Bruce J. Richman
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glorious stupidity, he reprinted one of my posts - and responded
with.........NOTHING!
You have a rich fantasy life. Actually, I hit send by accident when I
was
Post by Bruce J. Richman
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intending to hit reply.
Another lie, you idiotic weasel. Your rage and disconnect frrom reality
no
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doubt interfered, as it usually does, with your ability to act in an
appropriate manner.
As I said, you don't know what you're talking about and you suck as a mind
reader.
I don't engage in mind reading, asshole. I leave that bit of flimflam to liars
and libelers like yourself.
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I love it!!! His total loss of self-control and break down was a new
low -
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Bruce J. Richman
even
Post by Bruce J. Richman
for him.
Wth every post he just gives us all more evidence of his stupidity and
lack of
Post by Bruce J. Richman
reality contact.
LOL!
The stupidity is yours nutjob. This thread was about Julian Hirsch who
was
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respected in his field, unlike you.
You're full of shit, you moronic imbecile.
An opinion you get to have.
As if I needed your permission. An opinion the majority of RAO posters who
bother to read your slimy posts probably share.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
Your delusional rantings and
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ravings are now becoing more obvious.
As are yours.
Except that they don't exist. But thatnks for acknowledging that you are both
ranting and raving in an obvious way.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
And of course , your lies about my
Post by Bruce J. Richman
professional activities are just further proof of the desperate lengths to
which you will go to commit libel.
I haven't lied about your professional activities, I don't know for sure
what they are. I do know that someone whom I can't name out of courtesy,
told me in a private E-mail about them. The only thing I'm sure of, is that
you are an asshole.
You're a pathological liar and spreader of libel, you miserable piece of shit.
The fact that you would lie through your gums about my professional activities,
credentials and take the word of a false email says it all. IOW, you admit
here to just looking for unsubstantiated bullshit to duplicate - and then claim
it came from an anonymous source. Nothing is too low for you in your
neverending goal of speading false information and character assassination.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
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YOU chose to make it an unprovoked attack on Arny.
Not only are you a personal and professional failure, you have extremely
bad
Post by Bruce J. Richman
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manners as well.
You're lying again, cretin.
Telling the truth about you makes me a cretin and a liar?
Now who has a disconnect.
You have yet to tell the truth about me, libeler and liar. You've made
numerous false statements about my credentials, my name, my professional
activities, etc. - with no actual knowledge about any ot them.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
You have a documented history of unprovoked
Post by Bruce J. Richman
personal attacks against me personaly as well as my profession - about
which
Post by Bruce J. Richman
you know absolutely nothing.
Actually that's a distortion. Usually, I respond to other unprovoked
personal attacks. I have never attacked anybody who hasn't attacked me
first.
Prove it! That's obviously a lie. You have just started an attack thread
against me. Did I start one against you first, moron? Even a dimwit such as
yourself can answer this basic question.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
Your documented RAO history as a compulsive liar
Post by Bruce J. Richman
and spreader of libel is further confimed here. Your creditiblity is
zero.
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Your lies are a matter of Google record.
And yet you never provide one single link or quote from that "record" to
prove your case. Of course that must mean that you are either not savvy
enough to find them or they don't exist.
No, it means that all interestee parties can go to Google - put in the keywords
<McKelvy> and <Richman>, read the posts and draw their own conclusions.

Alternatively, all they have to do is read your idiotic ramblings in this
thread, or in those threads in which you've displayed your astounding lack of
tolerance and objectivity when it comes to politics. Most get the picture of
what an obnoxious asshhole and liar, you are, duh-Mikey, real fast.



Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 01:18:49 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the
first to help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the
good, the bad and the indifferent in electronic sound equipment,
died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx. He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle,
N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn
Station. Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that
station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good
will, and tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of
fond remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated
none of those qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has
already been written. Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have had
such signficantly different responses in their efforts to communicate.
So tell us about your RAO legacy of "good will and tolerance", Richman. I
take it that this would be a good example of the same?
Who is the "us" you are referring to, Krueger - aside from your friend,
McKelvy, you would appear to be quite isolated - and its not because of your
views, but rather because of the hostility and unprovoked personal attacks you
constantly use to convey them.
Unlike you, Krueger, I don't engage in personal attacks simply because somebody
doesn't agree with me. Of course, in dealing with people such as yourself,
that have engaged in unprovoked personal attacks against me, civil
communication is apparently impossible.
But with a few notable exception such as yourself and McKelvy, no such problem
exists.
Bruce J. Richman
A little clue for you dipshit, you made an unprovked personal attack in this
thread, twice so far.

Don't you have some beans to count?
Robert Morein
2003-12-04 03:41:31 UTC
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"Michael Mckelvy" <***@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:***@corp.supernews.com...
beans to count?
and nothing else
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 07:08:29 UTC
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beans to count?
and nothing else
The delusional imbecile and pathological liar, McKelvy, is trying to sneak in a
reference to numerous blatnatly false and libelous comments he made about me.
His excuse - he "heard them" from an unidentified source. As with everything
else he's ever had to say, it's all pure bullshit.



Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 17:16:13 UTC
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beans to count?
and nothing else
The delusional imbecile and pathological liar, McKelvy, is trying to sneak in a
reference to numerous blatnatly false and libelous comments he made about me.
I wasn't trying to sneak in anything, you moron. I came right out and said
it, you are an ass.
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His excuse - he "heard them" from an unidentified source. As with everything
else he's ever had to say, it's all pure bullshit.
I didn't technically "hear" it. It was confided to me in an E-mail from an
informed source.
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Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 18:06:20 UTC
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beans to count?
and nothing else
The delusional imbecile and pathological liar, McKelvy, is trying to sneak
in a
Post by Bruce J. Richman
reference to numerous blatnatly false and libelous comments he made about
me.
I wasn't trying to sneak in anything, you moron. I came right out and said
it, you are an ass.
You are lying again, you imbecile. You've made previous libelous and false
claims about my professional activities with no factual support for them.
Typical behavior frlom a totally unscrupulous and proven liar such as yourself.
Your bullshit about my profesional activities is a matter of Google record.
In reality, you know nothing about them other than what I may have written here
on RAO in the past - which is all factual.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
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His excuse - he "heard them" from an unidentified source. As with
everything
Post by Bruce J. Richman
else he's ever had to say, it's all pure bullshit.
I didn't technically "hear" it. It was confided to me in an E-mail from an
informed source.
That is a lblatant lie, you miserable purvey or of libelous information. Your
so-called
"source" - which has never been proven to exist - is no doubt a figment of your
imagination. Your willingness to accept without verification or question of
whatever "dirt" you thought you could dig up and spread is just further
evidence of your cowardly, phony, libelous approach towards those that you hate
- which is no doubt quite a list.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
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Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 20:58:16 UTC
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Post by Michael Mckelvy
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beans to count?
and nothing else
The delusional imbecile and pathological liar, McKelvy, is trying to sneak
in a
Post by Bruce J. Richman
reference to numerous blatnatly false and libelous comments he made about
me.
I wasn't trying to sneak in anything, you moron. I came right out and said
it, you are an ass.
You are lying again, you imbecile. You've made previous libelous and false
claims about my professional activities with no factual support for them.
Typical behavior frlom a totally unscrupulous and proven liar such as yourself.
Your bullshit about my profesional activities is a matter of Google record.
In reality, you know nothing about them other than what I may have written here
on RAO in the past - which is all factual.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
Post by Bruce J. Richman
His excuse - he "heard them" from an unidentified source. As with
everything
Post by Bruce J. Richman
else he's ever had to say, it's all pure bullshit.
I didn't technically "hear" it. It was confided to me in an E-mail from an
informed source.
That is a lblatant lie, you miserable purvey or of libelous information.
Your
Post by Bruce J. Richman
so-called
"source" - which has never been proven to exist - is no doubt a figment of your
imagination. Your willingness to accept without verification or question of
whatever "dirt" you thought you could dig up and spread is just further
evidence of your cowardly, phony, libelous approach towards those that you hate
- which is no doubt quite a list.
If the person who sent me the e-mail gives me permission, I will post that
person's name. I know that person was lurking then, perhaps still is.

Even if you are everything you say you are it would change nothing about my
opinion of you. IMO you are an undeniable ass and the last person on earth
I think anybody should see for a mental health problem. Unless of course
they want to GET ONE.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 23:32:03 UTC
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Post by Michael Mckelvy
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beans to count?
and nothing else
The delusional imbecile and pathological liar, McKelvy, is trying to
sneak
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Post by Michael Mckelvy
in a
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reference to numerous blatnatly false and libelous comments he made
about
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me.
I wasn't trying to sneak in anything, you moron. I came right out and
said
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it, you are an ass.
You are lying again, you imbecile. You've made previous libelous and
false
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claims about my professional activities with no factual support for them.
Typical behavior frlom a totally unscrupulous and proven liar such as
yourself.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Your bullshit about my profesional activities is a matter of Google
record.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
In reality, you know nothing about them other than what I may have written
here
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on RAO in the past - which is all factual.
Post by Michael Mckelvy
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His excuse - he "heard them" from an unidentified source. As with
everything
Post by Bruce J. Richman
else he's ever had to say, it's all pure bullshit.
I didn't technically "hear" it. It was confided to me in an E-mail from
an
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Michael Mckelvy
informed source.
That is a lblatant lie, you miserable purvey or of libelous information.
Your
Post by Bruce J. Richman
so-called
"source" - which has never been proven to exist - is no doubt a figment of
your
Post by Bruce J. Richman
imagination. Your willingness to accept without verification or question
of
Post by Bruce J. Richman
whatever "dirt" you thought you could dig up and spread is just further
evidence of your cowardly, phony, libelous approach towards those that you
hate
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- which is no doubt quite a list.
If the person who sent me the e-mail gives me permission, I will post that
person's name. I know that person was lurking then, perhaps still is.
Even if you are everything you say you are it would change nothing about my
opinion of you. IMO you are an undeniable ass and the last person on earth
I think anybody should see for a mental health problem. Unless of course
they want to GET ONE.
Since you are a proven pathological liar and spreader of false, libelous claims
about me, the above opinion is as worthless and invalid aa everything else
you've had to say.

If you had anything good to say about me, given your seriously disturbed
behavior on RAO, I would probably need to alert the authorities in California
that you've decompensated even further.



Bruce J. Richman
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 07:06:51 UTC
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"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the
first to help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the
good, the bad and the indifferent in electronic sound equipment,
died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx. He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle,
N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn
Station. Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that
station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good
will, and tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of
fond remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated
none of those qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has
already been written. Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have had
such signficantly different responses in their efforts to communicate.
So tell us about your RAO legacy of "good will and tolerance", Richman. I
take it that this would be a good example of the same?
Who is the "us" you are referring to, Krueger - aside from your friend,
McKelvy, you would appear to be quite isolated - and its not because of
your
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views, but rather because of the hostility and unprovoked personal attacks
you
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constantly use to convey them.
Unlike you, Krueger, I don't engage in personal attacks simply because
somebody
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doesn't agree with me. Of course, in dealing with people such as
yourself,
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that have engaged in unprovoked personal attacks against me, civil
communication is apparently impossible.
But with a few notable exception such as yourself and McKelvy, no such
problem
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exists.
Bruce J. Richman
A little clue for you dipshit, you made an unprovked personal attack in this
thread, twice so far.
Don't you have some beans to count?
Here's my response, you pathetic pathological liar and spreader of libel.
Still repeating the lies you've been spreading from you fictional source in
California, I see. You've libeled me many times, you worthless piece of shit.
You admitted as much when you said you wouldn't print your libelous bullshit
about my professioin in an American print publication.

McKelvy, you don't know the first thing about my profession, my personal life,
or anything else. You have a long history of attacking me without provocation.
That's all the justification I need, you cretin.

Now, you can go back to your self-hatred and projection of all your pathetic
symptoms on to others, as is your custom.



Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 00:47:51 UTC
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"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the first
to
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help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the good, the bad and
the indifferent in electronic sound equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the
Bronx.
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He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle, N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn Station.
Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good will, and
tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of fond
remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated none of those
qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has already been written.
Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have had such signficantly different
responses in their efforts to communicate.
Bruce J. Richman
Michael Mckelvy
2003-12-04 00:48:31 UTC
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"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the first
to
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help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the good, the bad and
the indifferent in electronic sound equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the
Bronx.
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He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle, N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn Station.
Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good will, and
tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of fond
remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated none of those
qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has already been written.
Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have had such signficantly different
responses in their efforts to communicate.
Bruce J. Richman
Nice to kow we can count on you to be a shit 100% of the time.
Robert Morein
2003-12-04 03:42:21 UTC
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shit
and nothing else.
Bruce J. Richman
2003-12-04 07:02:25 UTC
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shit
and nothing else.
Mikey is thinking of getting a legal middle name change. He wants to be known
in the future as Mikey Projector McKelvy.


Bruce J. Richman
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2003-12-04 07:01:10 UTC
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"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the
first
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to
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help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the good, the bad
and
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the indifferent in electronic sound equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the
Bronx.
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He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle, N.Y."
I loved that guy.
I spotted him one day as I debarked from a NJ Transit train at Penn
Station.
Post by Bruce J. Richman
Post by Arny Krueger
Quite a coincidence, as he wouldn't normally use that station.
He looked his picture, and had a radiant aura of contentment, good will,
and
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tolerance.
"Good will and tolerance". Perhaps that is why he left a legacy of fond
remembrances. Unfortunately for Krueger, he has demonstrated none of
those
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qualities towards others on RAO - and his legacy has already been written.
Interesting that 2 avowed objectivists have had such signficantly
different
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responses in their efforts to communicate.
Bruce J. Richman
Nice to kow we can count on you to be a shit 100% of the time.
What happened, you delusional imbecile, couldn't you post it right the first
time? Or were you to overcome with rage coupled with your usual stupidity to
be able to type anything.

Your use of the word "we" refers to only you and your soulmate, Krueger. The
rest of RAO sees you both for what you are, scumbag.

We'll all put a fork in you. You're done.

SCORE!!!!




Bruce J. Richman
Annika1980
2003-12-04 01:14:21 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the first to
help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the good, the bad and
the indifferent in electronic sound equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx.
He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle, N.Y."
Now THERE was a great man!
He was something rare in the Audio world, a reviewer who told the truth and
backed it up with measurements. He will be sorely missed.

R.I.P. "Dr. J."
Nousaine
2003-12-04 04:15:31 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the first to
help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the good, the bad and
the indifferent in electronic sound equipment, died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx.
He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle, N.Y."
Now THERE was a great man!
He was something rare in the Audio world, a reviewer who told the truth and
backed it up with measurements. He will be sorely missed.
R.I.P. "Dr. J."
Indeed he was. And as I've said before all audio evaluators stand in his
shadow. He invented all of it.
Arny Krueger
2003-12-04 12:39:08 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the
first to help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the
good, the bad and the indifferent in electronic sound equipment,
died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx. He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle,
N.Y."
Now THERE was a great man!
He was something rare in the Audio world, a reviewer who told the
truth and backed it up with measurements. He will be sorely missed.
R.I.P. "Dr. J."
Indeed he was. And as I've said before all audio evaluators stand in
his shadow. He invented all of it.
I don't know if we can blame Hirsch for the weirdness we read in radical
subjectivist ragazines like TAS or the fact-free so-called reviews that
compose the bulk of Stereophile.
Nousaine
2003-12-04 22:17:48 UTC
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/arts/03HIRS.html
"Julian Hirsch, an electrical engineer and writer who was among the
first to help a growing audience of audiophiles sort through the
good, the bad and the indifferent in electronic sound equipment,
died on Nov. 24 in the Bronx. He was 81 and lived in New Rochelle,
N.Y."
Now THERE was a great man!
He was something rare in the Audio world, a reviewer who told the
truth and backed it up with measurements. He will be sorely missed.
R.I.P. "Dr. J."
Indeed he was. And as I've said before all audio evaluators stand in
his shadow. He invented all of it.
I don't know if we can blame Hirsch for the weirdness we read in radical
subjectivist ragazines like TAS or the fact-free so-called reviews that
compose the bulk of Stereophile.
Sure, that's true enough. What I meant was he "invented and left behind" the
underground format in the 50s well before any of the latest crazies had any
thought of it.
Robert Morein
2003-12-05 06:13:49 UTC
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I don't know if we can blame Hirsch for the weirdness we read in radical
subjectivist ragazines like TAS or the fact-free so-called reviews that
compose the bulk of Stereophile.
Sure, that's true enough. What I meant was he "invented and left behind" the
underground format in the 50s well before any of the latest crazies had any
thought of it.
Hirsch was known for a kind of double-talk, where faint praise was actually
equivalent to a mere "pass".
If he actually became effusive about it, he actually liked it.
Some derided Julian for this, but once I understood the language, I had no
difficulty understanding his true meaning.
But what always came through in his writing was a very humble understanding
that his impression was a personal, relative one, rather than a compelling
judgement. I know of no reviewer since whose every word bespoke humilty. In
most of the dwindling magazines, a review is styled as a revelatory
confidement between the reviewer and the reader. The reader is made to
believe that he is receiving exclusive disclosure of occult discoveries. It
would seem that the editors prefer that reading the magazine provide a sort
of a lurid thrill. To provide that thrill, "review speak" has a vocabulary,
and a palette, such as that imagined for fine wines. Characteristics such as
frequency response and large signal dynamic linearity are transfigured into
literary, qualitative expressions. The typical review also includes a set of
standard measurements, the results of which have no apparent relationship to
the subjective experience of the reviewer. To those inclined toward
quantitative thinking, this intensifies the notion that the subjective
impressions are bunk. To those inclined to believe what they hear, this
intensifies the notion that quantitative measurements are irrelevant.

Some of us believe that there is both bunk and mystery in both the lurid
language of the review, and the quotation of measurements alleged to tell
all. It is unfortunate that people interested in the subject seem to have
polarized along two lines, while neglecting the middle. J.S. Mill said,
"Truth is found at the meeting of opposites."
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